Simplistic Minds.
Every day we think.
Little notes like, “What should I get for tea tonight?”
But, how would you be able to think that If you hadn’t been taught a language?
What would you think? Because, “What should I get for tea tonight?” is English, if you hadn’t been taught a language at all you wouldn’t be able to think this, but what would you think?
Does your brain have some sort of language that you understand?
Is it not a speaking voice as such, but you know what you are thinking.
Would you be like a baby, the world is just odd, you just think of eating, but you don’t think it in words.
Anyways that’s just a little starter.
Onto something else.
We consider ourselves to be pretty clever, our brains can think and take many things to concern.
It’s pretty amazing, a living conscience and thought process that is clearly unbelievable.
The brain is so amazing scientists still don’t know how it ticks. (I’d say a small clock embedded deep within the brain, lol)
But what if, our brains were simplistic.
What if our minds were the basic brains,
and somewhere out there are minds that they think entirely differently,
so different that we can even think of how different they could be.
Wait, who’s reading this and thinking.
“Not another alien believing freak, aliens aren’t real.”
Well first off, if you believe in God and so forth you should shut your mouth, I respect your beliefs so why criticize someone elses beliefs.
Secondly, they found bacteria on Mars, which, I’ll break it to you is a living organism, which is not on Earth, thereby making it an ALIEN. So there.
Besides, I find the thought of another form out in space, with billions and billions of planets and systems out there a lot more possible then a great force that exists everywhere and is not affected by time itself.
You tell me which sounds more like a fiction novel.
I’ve just broken the ‘respect’ I mentioned earlier, but the talk continues.
There could very well be another race that thinks differently to us.
They could think in an entirely different way, they could have telepathy, ESP,
Or Psychic powers.
Some humans say they have these things,
Could we just be breaking the surface for what the human brain could be capable of?
Could our brain evolve giving us mental abilities?
Not everyone can say, “I am Psychic.”
Only a few say it.
Who knows.
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Hi Ben-A-Ball,
I would like to respond to your claim that, "they found bacteria on Mars". This is just not true, I'm afraid.
Noone has found life on Mars. The announcement concerned a potato-sized rock found in Antarctica, on Earth. This rock, thought to be a meteorite, contains tiny globules which superficially resemble bacteria in shape, and certain chemicals which supposedly came from once-living organisms.
Some of the structures in the rock are unusual, and are shaped a bit like some bacteria. But you cannot judge most things by their outward appearance. The chief researcher for one team examining it admitted that such shapes could represent dried-up mud.
A huge problem with the alleged fossil bacteria is their tiny size — many times smaller than all known free-living bacteria. The Martian objects simply do not have enough room to pack in all the information needed for a self-reproducing cell. This is why William Schopf of the University of California, LA, a leading expert on microfossils, said: 'I think it is very unlikely they have remnants of biological activity.'
You can read more about this at: creation.com/life-on-mars
You say that you, "find the thought of another form out in space, with billions and billions of planets and systems out there a lot more possible then a great force that exists everywhere and is not affected by time itself. You tell me which sounds more like a fiction novel."
Well, let's not limit the question to space, let's include Earth as well, in all its complexity. Consider humanity and the animals and plants, in all their complexity. Consider, as you have, space and all the countless billions of stars and systems and things we can't even imagine! When you consider all of this, in all its wonder and complexity, you are faced with the question of how it all came to be.
Did the Universe, and everything in it, just make itself? Is it all just a result of random, chance processes? Is it all just one big cosmic accident? This is the theory of evolution. Or, was the Universe created by God?
If it was created by God, then what you refer to as the, "great force that exists everywhere and is not affected by time itself", is pretty accurate. Time itself is part of the Universe, therefore the Creator would have to exist outside of time, and would not be affected by time. He would also exist everywhere because He would have to exist outside of the Creation.
You asked, "You tell me which sounds more like a fiction novel". Well, I think the theory of "everything made itself" sounds more like a fiction novel than everything was created – which makes a lot more sense, both philosophically and scientifically.
I should have known that this would be the post to start up a discussion.
All readers keep in mind that the aim of my posts are not to abuse or attack one's beliefs, but only to shine light apon new topics for discussion.
Because of this argumentive gene that appears to run in the family I have a follow up comment.
First up with the life on Mars,
(Readers, we are not talking about the telivision series on Channel Ten)
The potatoe sized rock found in antartica that has bacteria on it.
It's Mud?
Mud would deteriate apon enterance to the Earths atmosphere, the shapes made out of mud on the meteor would be non-existant.
I had a bit of a Google and none of the website said that it was mud, nor did they say it wasn't from Mars.
What I find funny is that you link you posted as proof is a link to a religious website.
In my experience religious websites tend to bend the truth, there is one currently saying that the world will end in 2012, the Nostradamus. Last time I remember they also said that the world woud end in the year 2000, I'm still here, you're still here. I think they were wrong.
Then again. Who's to say that we are both wrong.
Who's to say that the meteor hasn't gathered bacteria since it's been on Earth. It would make alot more sense, considering that bacteria would probably have been obliterated too.
My point still stands on aliens though, with over 20 billion planets in the entire universe it's silly to think that we are the only living organisms in space.
I noticed you said this too:
"You asked, "You tell me which sounds more like a fiction novel". Well, I think the theory of "everything made itself" sounds more like a fiction novel than everything was created – which makes a lot more sense, both philosophically and scientifically."
Well first off, you quoted me saying, "You tell me what sounds more like a fiction novel."
I never said "Everything made itself," that's absolutely proposterous. Something needs something to make something. Nothing cannot make something.
I believe that the universe wasn't created, but has always been there.
That it has always been there in the form of rock and chemicals matter that eventually came together and reacted.
But I refuse to believe that there is a conscience being behind it all.
In the end we can argue the same thing over and over. But when two people strongly believe something, neither can be swayed.
It's an everlasting paradox.
Hi Ben,
Blogger is limiting my response to 4096 characters, so I'll cut my response in half and post the two halves separately.
I'll quote you with ">>" symbols before your text, and with my comments underneath.
RESPONSE – PART 1:
>> "First up with the life on Mars"
As I said previously, noone has found life on Mars.
>> "The potatoe sized rock found in antartica that has bacteria on it"
It doesn't have bacteria on it. It contains tiny globules which superficially resemble bacteria in shape.
>> "It's Mud?"
Again, some of the structures in the rock are unusual, and are shaped a bit like some bacteria. The chief researcher for one team examining it admitted that such shapes could represent dried-up mud.
>> "I had a bit of a Google and none of the website said that it was mud, nor did they say it wasn't from Mars"
Dr David McKay of the NASA Johnson Space Center said, "at very high magnification in the area of the carbonate globules we see … elongated forms, structural forms. We think that matrix that they appear to be eroding out of is probably a clay mineral. … The features … could be dried-up parts of that clay, or they could be microfossils from Antarctica or microfossils from Mars. It is our interpretation, the one that we favor, is that these are, in fact, microfossil forms from Mars. But keep in mind that is an interpretation, we have no independent data that these are fossils; we don't have pictures showing cell walls, or internal material characteristic of cells. It's simply an interpretation at this point. … As we look in other areas of the carbonate, we see these forms which are elongated; they have rounded ends on them. Are these strange crystals? Are they dried-up mud? … Whether this is a microfossil or whether it's a dried-up mud crack, we can't really say …"
(Source: http://www.ipp.mpg.de/~bds/space/mars-life/nconf.html)
As to whether or not the rock came from Mars, the honest scientific answer is that we do not know for sure.
>> "Who's to say that the meteor hasn't gathered bacteria since it's been on Earth. It would make alot more sense, considering that bacteria would probably have been obliterated too"
Exactly! We simply don't know for sure.
END OF PART 1
Hi Ben,
Blogger is encountering an error when I try to publish PART 2 of my response. I'll try again tomorrow. Maybe they are having some problems at Blogger HQ!
RESPONSE – PART 2:
>> "My point still stands on aliens though, with over 20 billion planets in the entire universe it's silly to think that we are the only living organisms in space"
According to Wikipedia, there are only about 400 known extrasolar planets, not 20 billion. There are, however, more than 100 billion galaxies, which each contain countless billions of stars. Whichever way you look at it, the Universe is a big place – bigger than we could ever imagine.
It's not "silly to think that we are the only living organisms in space", it just depends on what you believe about life, the Universe, and how you answer the big questions. For example, if someone believes life evolved from non-life here on Earth, then they may believe it also happened somewhere else in the Universe; perhaps on many other planets. Or, if someone believes the Universe and life was created by God (as recorded in the Bible), then they may think that humanity and the Earth is the central focus of God's creation, and that it's unlikely that life exists elsewhere in the Universe.
>> "I never said "Everything made itself," that's absolutely proposterous. Something needs something to make something. Nothing cannot make something."
You said, "I find the thought of another form out in space, with billions and billions of planets and systems out there a lot more possible then a great force that exists everywhere and is not affected by time itself." So what you are really saying is, "I find it easier to believe that aliens exist, than to believe that God exists." – am I right?
I was digging a little deeper, to get to the foundations of your comment. You see, if you find it hard to believe that God exists (or perhaps you think He doesn't exist at all), then you need to explain how the Universe (which you may believe also includes aliens), came to be. The theory of evolution is essentially saying that "everything made itself", because without a Creator, this is the only thing it can say! The problem is, "nothing cannot make something", as you say. Evolutionary theory says that life arose from non-life, but according to science, this is impossible. Thousands of experiments, and all of the recently gained knowledge of molecular biology and genetics, have only served to strengthen the most fundamental law of biology, laid down by Virchow over a century ago: "omni cellules e cellules" (all cells come from other cells), also known as the Law of Biogenesis. Life only comes from life.
>> "I believe that the universe wasn't created, but has always been there. That it has always been there in the form of rock and chemicals matter that eventually came together and reacted. But I refuse to believe that there is a conscience being behind it all."
Why do you believe this, Ben? This is not supported by science at all. The idea of an eternal universe doesn't add up, because the universe is slowly approaching what is called "heat death" in accordance with the second law of thermodynamics. Heat death will occur when all the energy of the universe has been degraded to random heat energy, with random motions of molecules and uniform low-level temperatures. If the universe were eternal, this state would have been reached "a long time ago". The fact that the universe is not dead is clear evidence that it is not infinitely old.
So which view do you think is the most logically defensible? Either, matter eternally existed (or came into existence by itself for no reason), and then, by itself, arranged itself into information systems (which goes against everything observed in real science) or that a Creator, with infinite intelligence, created information systems for life to exist, agreeing with real science?
I'm curious to know why you "refuse to believe that there is a conscience being behind it all". That's a strong statement to make.
END OF PART 2
Hi Ben,
I think I figured out why I was having trouble with Blogger. I was trying to use a few simple HTML tags. As soon as I removed these, I stopped encountering the Blogger error, and was able to publish.
So now I've published my response in full, in two parts – thanks.
The thought behind the subject is too strong and the risk of ruining a friendship can begin very quickly.
I am always up for a small discussion but I have noticed that the posts appear to get more tense and more agressive in turn.
From this point on I will no longer place any further comments on this post.